FB
First of all, congratulations on your new position at
Daon!
CT
Thank you very much!
FB
What areas will you be focusing on at Daon?
CT
I am going to be the focus for Standards participation,
but that is not going to be my only responsibility. I continue to
work on specific projects that my services are required on. In the
future, as I learn more about our product line-up, I will also be
able to help with things like proposals and consulting work.
FB
What Standards bodies are you currently involved with?
CT
The main ones are the INCITS M1 Group, the International
Committee on Information Technology Standards; that's the focal
point. Even though it's international, it's considered a
"national body" in terms of the international Biometric Standards
focus, as it feeds up into SC 37, which is also biometrics. I head
the US Delegation to that group at ISO - ISO/IEC JTC1 SC 37. And
then the other group that I have been working with is OASIS,
Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards,
which is the group that does a lot of the web services standards.
There is a new project we are working on which is a collaborative
effort between INCITS and OASIS.
FB
When we completed our recent Year in Review where we
spoke with about 40 companies around the world in the Biometrics
area, what came across clearly was that Standards was one of the most
important developments that had occurred in 2005 in a positive
manner. Could you review for us some of the positive gains for the
industry on the Standards front in 2005?
CT
I think the number one thing is that SC 37 approved its
first ISO standards for Biometrics. Four Standards were approved,
all in the area of data interchange formats. That has its own
significance because many of those are in turn called out by the ICAO
documents for the e-passport programs. That was something that was
done internationally, had international participation and
co-operation, and is a real success story considering that SC 37 met
for the very first time in December of 2002 and then in 2005 the
first standards came out the door from that group.
FB
That is a very positive turn-around time!
CT
It is, and at the international level I know some people
get frustrated because it can take a while. You can't decide one
day you are going to do it and the next month out pops the standard.
It takes time, there are procedures for doing it. It's a consensus
process and there are about 21 countries that are key members of SC
37, so trying to get countries to agree on anything that quickly is
pretty amazing!
FB
Trying just to find time to meet with that many
participants is difficult enough.
CT
SC 37 meets about every 6 months. Different countries
host the meetings so, for example, the meeting in January was hosted
by Japan in Kyoto. The next one is going to be in July in London.
FB
The National Institute of Standards and Technology,
NIST, issued the final publication describing how Biometrics should
be stored on personal identification verification- PIV cards. Can
you describe the significance of that for us?
CT
I think the two things I find most significant about it
are, first of all, it represents an endorsement of the standard
fingerprint minutia template, which in this case is the INCITS 378
version of that template for one-to-one applications - so this is
pretty much a first (though that template was actually used on the
TWIC phase 3 prototype as well). But since the PIV program is so huge
and having so much focus, and the fact that it did change from the
initial draft which had finger images on the card and this final
version that has minutia templates on it, I think is very
significant. To me it serves as an endorsement for that Standard. The
second thing in the PIV SP 800-76 specification is that it
incorporates several ANSI (American National Standards
Institute) standards and clearly delineates where these will
be used and where traditional law enforcement standards apply.
FB
Another comment that came up in our Year in Review was
the fact that the European Union wants a 5-Year action plan requiring
interoperable Biometric identifiers in Europe. Can you elaborate a
little bit on that for us?
CT
My understanding of what the Europeans are doing is not
that they are attempting to develop something different than what SC
37 is doing, but they will be more co-ordinated in how those
standards are used and applied.
FB
Are there any other areas in terms of Standards
development in the past year you would like to cover off for us?
CT
Well I have a couple of statistics for you. Coming out
of the Kyoto meeting, and there has been an update subsequent to this
since then, I mentioned that the number of approved standards at that
point was 4. Those were approved in 2005, but there are a number of
other projects at different levels of progression. From highest to
lowest - at FDIS level, which is Final Draft International Standard,
the level that gets balloted just before the document is approved,
there are 9 projects. At the FCD level, which is Final Committee
Draft, there are 7 projects. At CD level, which is Committee Draft,
there are 8 projects. And at the working draft stage, there are 6
projects. So there is a lot going on in the Standards space!
FB
Wow, that is over 30 different projects!
CT
And there are new projects coming along as well that
aren't included in those statistics because they haven't made it
to working draft level, and there are also a couple of amendment
projects. There is just an awfully lot going on because there are 6
working groups within SC 37 and each one of them has its own program
of work. Now since Kyoto, three of those projects at the FDIS level
were approved. So they are at the stage where FDIS has been approved
and there are probably a couple of little minor editorial things that
have to be done to them before they are published. They are
considered approved at this point.
FB
That sounds like a full agenda!
CT
It is very full! Another statistic is that currently M1
has 14 approved standards. They started a little prior to the SC 37
group.
FB
So it sounds as if everything has really moved into high
gear.
CT
It really has. Since 9/11 a lot of things have
accelerated with regard to standards and it is not a coincidence at
all. There is recognition that Biometrics needed to play a role in
some of the security programs that resulted from the legislation that
came out of 9/11, and so then people asked themselves, "Where are
the standards that go with these technologies that we are needing to
deploy?" So the recognition of the need occurred at that point.
FB
In summary, again from our Year in Review one of the
questions we asked was Ð what's the most pressing issue facing
the industry? Interesting, although we received very positive
feedback about standards with regard to the progress made in 2005, it
also still appears as one of the greatest challenges facing the
industry as we move into 2006, along with testing, certification and
implementation of Biometrics in accordance with these standards.
CT
It is interesting that you say that because when it
comes to challenges facing the industry, that is one of the things
that I noted as a need. First of all, there are still some gaps that
exist and the gaps are surely but slowly being filled. Two of the
gaps that were identified, and for which new projects have been
started, are in the area of biometric web services (and that is the
collaboration between INCITS and OASIS that I mentioned earlier) and
the other is for a voice data interchange format. If you look at all
the data interchange formats in M1 and SC 37 you don't see Voice
anywhere, because that group has typically worked with the telephony
community and has not been as tied in with the biometrics community
in the past. So that is changing and that gap is in the process of
being filled. The Voice XML group is working on this with M1.
Second on my list is adoption. Adoption is always
problematic. Many times it requires that customers demand
conformance from the vendors because many vendors, especially
biometrics vendors, are small. They are watching their resources and
they are not going to do it unless somebody makes them do it. Plus
they have this tendency, and this applies to any technology not just
biometrics, to stay proprietary as long as they can because then they
can have this lock-in effect. So sometimes there can be a little bit
of resistance from the vendors, but when the customers demand it,
then the vendors do it.
The last area is conformance testing. In addition to
the base standards, there is a need for standards for conformance.
Each standard usually has a conformance clause, however, what is
happening now is that there are separate standards being developed
for conformance testing methodologies In some cases, conformance test
suites are also being developed. For example, there is a
conformance test suite, which should be released soon for BioAPI.
Okay, now you have the conformance test standards and suites but what
is this conformance testing program that is put in place? Sometimes
it may be a certification or a qualification program. In other
instances it's vendor's self claim of conformance, but because
some of these standards are being called out in large government
programs, I think you may see those type of qualification
requirements coming into existence.
FB
Thank you very much for providing an update on the
Standards area. I think it is good that Daon is applying focus in
this direction because when we talk with folks in the industry it is
clearly one of the most important areas.
CT
You are most welcome, Peter.
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